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She Said, She Said
S1E2: Near Misses & Flying Fables: Deb & Pam’s Adventures in Furniture, Concussions, & Life’s Quirks
Welcome back to "She Said She Said"!
For our second episode, Deb shares a funny story about a bed mishap that left her with a concussion, while Pam reveals her latest obsession—day trading. We also chat about our love for rearranging furniture and laugh over lost gadgets and past blunders.
Plus, Deb has a wild Indy 500 story, Pam's flying planes?!?! and we play a quick round of two truths and a lie. So, grab a drink, get comfy, and join our laid-back chat.
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Let's jump back into the furniture topic, because I'm betting people deal with this a lot. Like, there's. I, for example, like, my mother could have one chair in one corner and live there for 30 years. Yeah. You, however, do like to move furniture. I enjoy it. I definitely enjoy the furniture moving. I need stuff because it's variety and it gets cleaned under the chair. It's for cleaning. Cleaning, yes. But I like to see the world from different perspectives. And so when I move. Welcome to she said, she said podcast. I am Pam Pryor, CFO, author. In short, I balance the books. And I'm Deb Reinhard. I am a Topra certified meditation teacher, ayurveda teacher, master, life coach, and I balance sometimes. And every week, we're gonna dive into it. Business, home life, the beautiful chaos of all of it. And you might catch a few light hearted arguments. Why don't we see what can stir the pot today? We've had a pretty fresh start this. Morning before we have. With pot stirring. Yes, we have. Miss. I lose everything. I want to argue with you so much right now. I think you cannot argue with me. Let's, let's. Where do we want to start? Do you want to, do you want to do it? You want to, you want to start. Very simply, I need to know if, you know, drop it in the comments. Does an iPad pro, does an iPad pro pencil work with the eleven generation, fourth generation iPad? Because I came down here all set to go with my iPad to do this, and now I can't write, so I'm totally thrown off. This is not the problem. Let's be very clear. This is not the problem. The problem. Are you gonna call this a simple. There are so many problems with what you just said right now. So the box for the pencil sitting right down there. So had she actually looked at the instructions, she would be able to find out whether or not the pencil is compatible with the iPad. No, no, stop, stop. And then let's even talk about why we have a problem with the pencil now anyway. Because how many pencils have we bought, Pam, in the light of this particular iPad? Three. Because. Because we like to have them, like pack. Because we lose them. Well, there's that. But. And what other things? What other things, Pam? Because this is. The pencils are just one. It's Apple's fault. One thing about it. The other thing is the ibuds. Airpods. This is all Airpods. How many AirPods have we bought in the life of Airpods? Four. I've had one, Pam, I had one of the original. And then when the max came out, you're like, would you like a max? And that's an upgrade. I'm like, okay, I'll take one of those. And I still have my original one of those. I probably have all of them somewhere. This is the thing. They're not really lost. And then let's talk about the phones. We're still talking. Where do we go with the phones? Where do we go with the phones? Oh, yeah, it did kind of happen. Thank you, Francis. Last year. Okay, that was the thing. What happens? We're. Oh, England. Oh, my God, England. Oh. When driving. Driving through England, I can't even tell you how many cabs she left her purse and her phone in. But not only that, we were at scalable last year. It was great. Fabulous event. Highly recommend that you go, especially if you want to scale your business. Pam can't find her phone at the end of the day. It was right after we got out. Of the car, and all of the sudden it was panic. Where's the phone? No. Can we. Can we use the find my. To find the phone? Well, we see the phone on find my way. We made it here. We couldn't find the phone anywhere. So what do we have to do? Wait, we found it. It was in his car. It beeped. See, now changes the story. That's for the cab. I'm talking about scalable. We never found that one. Yeah. No, we didn't. No, we didn't. And what did we have? The story's gone on way too long. Drive to the Verizon store to buy a new phone. They have all changed. And that is probably the second time. That's the second time because of a lost phone. What was the first last phone? You gotta be more concise with your. What was the first last phone, Pam? What's the first one? What was the number plane. Oh, I did flush it down the toilet. Okay, that was pretty funny. I just wanna say that was a funny story. You're gonna have to cut a lot of this, Francis. Cause boy, does she ramble on when she's on a tear. Yeah, I was gonna co host a little better this week. All right, go ahead. But apparently when I'm quiet, it's the Deb Reinhardt show. Speak. So tell me if there's. Did I say anything wrong? A few things. Oh, come, please. You told the story from your filter. The actual truth is I've lost a few things. Sure, who doesn't? But I find them and eventually, then I have a multiple set of theme. And then we don't have to ever buy anything again because it's like the pacifiers. When you have a baby, you buy, like, 100 pacifiers, and you put 15 in every room in the house. You put some in each car, like you never want to be without. Like the cheaters. Like cheater glasses. So when you're young, having kids, it's pacifiers. When you're 60, 50. It's. I'm 60, but it started at 50. It's readers. In fact, I need to. We need to buy another 30 or 40 pair at the new high rate. Yeah. Anyway, so it's like that. I don't need 60 of these. I just need two or three so that when one falls off, which these are made to fall off. Apple's not stupid. They're made for people like me who lose them. You could just take a picture. And I keep Apple in business, which is nice. The only question I actually had this morning before this tirade was, does my iPad eleven work with the pencil Pro or whatever this is? So inside that. Inside that box is a piece of paper that lists all the things that it's compatible with. How many of you actually pull the piece of paper out? Do you not answer your questions? Pause. On the Internet. Pause. Most people, this is an apple pencil. Most people will have to do with it. People would look on the Internet first to say, oh, let me make sure this is compatible with my device before I buy it. But I bought it on the road. I didn't have time. Hello? I'd lost it. Local. Good. I didn't have time. So anyway, yeah, I do lose some stuff sometimes. Now, to be fair, I believe we could make an argument that this is all gaslighting. Because here's what happens in this house all of a sudden. I will innocently put my notebook here. Right there. I'm working here. My notebook's there. I'll get up and go to the bathroom. I'll come back, it'll be gone, and I'll have to say, deb, where's my notebook? I put it away. Well, where is away? Because that changes every day. Because in this house, no piece of furniture that stores anything. No piece of furniture, period, stays in one place for longer than. How long? How long? Maybe six months. Maybe six months. That is the biggest exaggeration ever. No, no, no. I'm slowing down. As I get older, I'm slowing down. So every weekend or so, at some point, Deb gets a look on her face and just stands in the middle of the kitchen and looks around and I know, I know, I know that all of those things that I've been accused of losing are now going to end up in another spot because the furniture is going to move. And it is true that you have done that while I've been away and I've come back and not noticed for days, weeks. And then I'll come downstairs and actually walk into a piece of furniture and. Go, how long has that been there? So that is a true story. Yeah. And it's kind of fun because you never know. People come visit, they never know what house they're going to see, which is nice. It made for this beautiful set that Deb and Francis and Wen lined out. So that, truthfully, is the thing. That's where all of my eye pencils are hiding away with the second sock from the dryer in some. Put away a cabinet somewhere. Yeah. I can guarantee you that I don't touch your electronics anymore. I used to. And that it's true. I tidy things, but I tidy things. That's what we should call this episode. I tidy things. I tidy things, but I tidy things in spaces where things are not supposed to. Like, we got this. You're done. You can't tell another story. We got the wrapping. You don't get another chance. We'll save it for another day. Save it for another day. I love it. Let's jump back into the furniture topic, because I'm betting people deal with this lot. Like, there's. I, for example, like, my mother could have one chair in one corner and live there for 30 years. Yeah. You, however, do like to move furniture. I enjoy it. I definitely enjoy the furniture moving. I need stuff because it's variety and it gets clean under the chairs. I need. It's for cleaning. Cleaning, yes. But I like to see the world from different perspectives. And so when I move furniture, it allows me to, like, imagine the room, imagine the spaces differently. What? See different things. So it helps your creativity. Absolutely. Helps my creativity. Keeps me happy. Interesting. Yeah. When did you notice that you first started? I moved furniture. I haven't forever since I've known you. I used to furniture my entire life. Like, when you were a kid? I used my furniture when I was a kid, yeah. Like in your bedroom. Absolutely. We used to move my bedroom a lot. All the time. All the time. And just to get the different perspectives. To get different things, see different things, move different things in and out. Yeah. Yeah. How often does the urge hit you? Um, it's honestly, like, okay. How long could you go without, like, if there were a challenge, ah. If we said, oh, here's a challenge, a not moving furniture challenge, which would be a stupid challenge to have. But if we were like, how long until you, like, got? I could go six. I could go six months. I could go half a year. Now, it wasn't, it wasn't that way always. Like, when I was okay, you know, when I was, like, able to move things around. Like before you brought, and before you. Tried to move the bed all the way down the front stairs. Oh. And it came tumbling down behind you and tumbling down in front of it, and it hit the front and dented. The metal front door. Oh. Missed you, probably by. I jumped. I. I literally leap. That truly could have been the death of. I could have died. I could have. And then another one down here in the basement when a bed fell on your head. Yeah. And then I was in the hospital. For a few days. And that concussion, you said you had ramifications from that. Like, for, for a long time. Like, you every now and then will still say my words aren't coming. Yeah, yeah. And I always will wonder at least. At least a month where I could not find words. All the time. I knew exactly what I wanted to say, but I couldn't find the words. Couldn't get the word. Yeah. Now that happens to me a lot now. I think it's age. Yeah. No, no, no. It's very different. Like, you'd hold that thing up and you're like. And I'd be like, I know it's a box, but I couldn't find the word box. Like, that's the kind of what I. Do now, which is hysterical because you know exactly what I'm saying. And all of our friends and co workers will just look at me with their head cocked if I can't come up with a word, instead of pausing, what I'll do now is just go white box with curly ribbons, hold hand thing up. Yeah. And you're like, oh, the apple pen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, like, start throwing words that describe whatever it is at the table. I have no idea why, but it just, like, starts happening. Yeah, I know. It's like I'm gonna get this out no matter what. I know. But you can figure it out. I can. Most don't all the time. 33 years, baby. I got you figured out. That is true. That is true. I got you figured out. But you just pause when you can't find the word. I do. More and more. I used to try and talk through it, but now I just stop. Sometimes I can nail it. But the furniture thing is interesting because. Go ahead. I guess we never really moved furniture. I'm thinking about my houses as kids, and I'd occasionally move my desk in my office or something, but on the whole, our furniture, once it went into a house that stayed there. Now we were only in houses for a year and a half, two years, I guess the longest was four. But once it got there, it stayed and never occurred to me I could move furniture till I had my own apartment. My first apartment, my. My coffee table, was actually hall of records boxes from Dupont. And they were with nothing in them. With nothing in. Very sturdy. Very sturdy boxes. Was not taking all. And I paid for them. I didn't steal them. I paid for them. And there were just eight of them, 22468. And that I put a thing over it, and it stayed there the whole time I was in the apartment. But then it occurred to me, when I moved in with my friends for the first time, I can move furniture. We can move it whenever we want to. And that's the first time it happened. It occurred to me. But I still, like, I must wake up in a stupor, because there are days I'll come back, like I said, from a trip. Trip. Come downstairs and literally walk straight into a table in the middle of the room. Not unusual. Not unusual at all. So it is kind of a hazard. And we might need those safety cones. We need something. As I get older and older, we need something. I'm slowing down in terms of how often I move things. That is true. But what. I just want to share this, because I'm really, really proud of this. Oh, boy. My daughter likes to move furniture. She does. She's as addicted as you. When she was. When you remember, she would live here. They shouldn't live in here anymore. Yeah, I would do it. We used to move furniture all the. Time, and she does it in her own house now. She doesn't love her furniture. All is all this. I have a feeling that if she. She had more room or time. If she had more room and time. I can picture her with that same look on your face in the middle of the house going, hmm. Something to change when that hits, you know. It's a harmless addiction. For me, it's day trading or learning about Defi. Oh, Jesus. Yours is a much healthier one, because it's. Yeah. You have to be fit to do it. Allows you to clean. Yep. Keep everything neat and orderly. It's good. All of those things stack up. Boy. They matter. They do matter. I do. Absolutely. I know that you appreciate. I so appreciate it. That is absolutely true. I definitely appreciate it. So you'll have to pick on me about my furniture movie. Speaking of which, the topic we ought to wrap up with today is what we were talking about this week about this actual recording stuff, actually kind of enriching the relationship in a weird way. Yeah. So I think what it. What it does. Okay. So please don't get this or take this the wrong way whenever they leave. I have to preface when your partner leads with don't take this the wrong way. Isn't that sort of, like, respectfully. No, no, no. With all due respect, no offense, but I don't. I want you to take this with all of the love that's intended. These are some of the longest conversations we have. That is true. Because you are working all the time. That's very true. And I don't. I don't, like, have long conversations, like, unless I've totally detached and, like, sit down like this or when we're on vacation or when we're at a friend's house at a party or something. I. I'm not a talker. No. Which is weird, because I talk a lot. You can, like, remember we were doing. While you were getting your health coaching thing? Yeah. I was like a dummy. Not dummy. A. Yeah. You were like a fly on the wall. No, a practice student. Oh, my practice client. Oh, my goodness. And you looked at the statistics on the thing, and, like, I talked 80%. Of the time, and, you know, you're supposed to talk 80% of the time. That's not. So. That's not an issue. Hey, please. No, the challenge. The issue is that you talk consistently for nine straight minutes, not a wedge of word. Could I get in? Because you just. You are. You are. You have an amazing ability to just, like, go off and riff and just keep going, and your brain doesn't. It's a part of the magic of you. Your brain just keeps putting things together. So the reason I love this, I love how. I love just how present it allows us to be, which is really wonderful. I will say something that's different most of the time. And the reason I think I hate talking is because my brain does things in, like, images and, like, patterns and, like, it makes these massive connections, and, like, I see what it is that I'm needing to get out of, and I'm like, I can't do that with words, so I'm just like, I won't even bother. Yeah. And because I've got to get on to the next thing. Whereas with something like this, we're sitting down. The purpose is to chat. So what does this tell you? Couples? Yeah, it's take time, which we do not do. So, like, I'm lecturing us all on something we don't do. Date night. Really important. We did one just last week. Yeah, that was. And that was a great dinner, and. It was a great you to sit down and talk. And there's so much you love about this person that you never get to spend time appreciating because you're carrying on with life. And the other thing I love, honestly, is just. It allows you to remember, like, as we sit here and have conversations, remember shame, remember things you just get to, like, huh, that was really funny that you did that, or that there's just something that is. That just kind of reinforces that connection. We laugh all the time, all day, but you don't remember it. Like, we're always. Something's making us laugh almost every. I don't know that there's a day that we're not laughing at something, but you don't remember those things. It's like, oh, yeah, that's right. Lindsey used to always write down, like, when people say, america, wasn't it, like. Tales from America or something like that. But in her phone is literally quotes, and, like, she'll come just pop that bone out now, 20 years later, and read one, and we're like, oh, my God, I totally remember that now. But what I wouldn't. Yeah. Or, like, I have cards and letters from my garden city friends where I grew a really tight set of friends, as you know, for a year and a half, back when I was 1213. And I'll read them and go, oh, yeah, that happened. I totally wouldn't have pulled it out of my head otherwise. So, yeah, I really. I'm enjoying it for that reason and just taking the time to talk because, I mean, the show literally, like, even getting ready for the podcast, I'm working right up until Francisco's hello. Yeah, it's also pretty cathartic, I will say that. It's like, yeah, during the week, we'll adjust behaviors, too. Yeah. Like, oh, yeah, that is kind of stupid, what I do there. Not stupid. That's the wrong word. But it's a habit I've gotten into that I shouldn't be into kind of thing. Yeah, one of the ones from last week. You're like, sometimes you like, I actually noticed it last week before we recorded tell me, I was asking for a cup of coffee. And I put on some stupid, pitiful voice like, oh, you know, my coffee, please. Just ridiculous. All right. It was not that bad. This would be called give them an inch, they take a mile. That's exactly what it is. While I'm serving this up for you to hit right down the middle. That's all right. I'm like, oh, I said it then, right? Then I'm like, oh, God, that's obnoxious. Can I have a cup of coffee? And we raised it at last week's thing, but I paid attention and not done that anymore because it pisses me off. Like, if somebody did that to me, I'd be like, get your own freaking cup of coffee. I don't mind getting you coffee. It's just I, like, I don't sound. Like an idiot, but just don't make it sound so pitiful pathetic. Because you're not pathetic. No, it's like I said, coming into a room, I either walk in and command the shit out of it, or I trip and fall flat on my face. Nothing. Pathetic. There's nothing in between. There's no, there's no, please, I'm a cup of coffee in there. Right? Great. So anyway, I'm loving doing this. How about you? Me, too. I am. Yeah. Yeah. We got to get some more episodes on the books then. I think so. And then we're going to have some guests, too. I know we have been coming up. With some guest ideas, which is going to be fun, too. Now, I do want to drop one thing that we probably won't go into really deeply today, but I think it's a very serious thing for entrepreneur corporate families. Now, we've both been in corporate, we've both been entrepreneurial. Me for a little longer time than you, you in corporate for a little longer than me. And they're very different mindsets. Superbly. And so one of the things I think we're gonna tap, so stay tuned for a future episode, is kind of some of the things that I do as an entrepreneur that make you go, oh, my God. And vice versa. Because there are lots of things. Like, I just dropped two examples here to tease you a little bit. But one is I spend money like there's no tomorrow on the business to invest in the future a second, that's kind of where I have a lower risk tolerance and Deb doesn't. A higher risk tolerance. And the flip side of it is, like, your pricing for your as an entrepreneur, as a new entrepreneur. So, you know, I'm like, oh, no, you got to charge more. And no, I'm not used to that yet kind of thing. So I think we got a lot to unpack there and I think that would resonate with a lot of people. One of the things that absolutely becomes critical when you're an entrepreneur, either one or two. In a family, transparency has to be complete. And it's very easy to go down rabbit holes and be lonely as an entrepreneur. And what you can start doing is not sharing things with your spouse, which is just never a good idea. Yeah. And I haven't done it. I've, like, made things sound rosier than they are. We've had. You skirted it. We've had really good conversations recently about, you know, hello, I'm here. Let's. Let's talk about whatever the things are and handle them together and you forget you have a partner. So that, I think, will be a really cool thing to dive into. It doesn't have to be like, you're lucky enough to have somebody you're living with and working with day in and day out. It's. It can be who knows you and all the things. So anyway, we'll explore that on another episode. Sounds like fun. I think it sounds like a wrap for today. It does. I have a question. Do you guys have date nights? Like, we sat at the bottle on. The no phones for Kyanais. Oh, we're going to now? I love that. But not no date night rules. I think no phones is brilliant. Well, I'll carry the phone with me in case there's an emergency call, but I won't. I'll turn it off. Although one of the things we'll do is look shit up on Google. But that's different. If you have a question, like, you're in a conversation and you have a question about something, you wanna look it up. That's different than constantly being checking your phone. Yeah. So we don't, when we're on date night, we don't do that. But I like the idea of no rules. The rule that I wish we had on date night is a no exceptions rule. Yeah. And we make exceptions either. Sometimes I'm like, nope, I'm too busy. Just can't do it. Or deb will be like, you know what? I really just wanna be home. So we don't hold the line on it. And I do think maybe we do a challenge here and say, I challenge us to stick to date night. Stick to date night. Unless there's traveling by one of us. Yeah, there's a date night every weekly. Weekly, weekly. This would be a dream. I'm laying down the gauntlet because that should be the biggest rule. Other rules is just, you know, be present when you do it. Be present. What other rules do you have normally? Your phones that, like, for us, like a date. I could be shown. We'll go out, we'll play games inside. Oh. So in is okay as a date night? Yeah. Banana grams. Banana grams. Banana Grams is like, one of the rules. Yeah. I'm not like, I know what our movie night can be. This month. You sent us a documentary one. And that can be our movie night for one. We've got a couple documentaries, and then. Somebody told me about a movie with that I didn't even know about, with Will Smith called focus. Yeah. So that's now on my list. It's supposed to be really good. Good to have. Good to have a list. He's a criminal, a con man thing. But it's a very cool con movie. Yeah, cool. So it's kind of like oceans 112 or whatever they're up to. What are we doing, Francis? So you guys both have to come. Up with two truths. We have. Yeah. And we're going to spin about. And this was hard. This was so hard. It's funny because Francis thought we'd, like, whip these up, but we're like, we know everything about each other. You have to go so far. So far to be able to even pull. I even went to like, geez, what is something I tried to hide from Deb. And I know there have been things I just don't remember. None of them are coming to mind what is about to come out now. Yeah. I couldn't come up with one that trying to hide one, but I will pay attention to that going forward. So who's first? Yeah, I'll go first. Okay, you wanna do all three of yours and I'll try and pick? Okay. Yeah, I'll do all three. In high school, I ran a lot about high school, I ran track. Okay, I can see that you cheerleaded in high school, so a natural accompanies track. What's that letter read? Oh, letter district. Don't think out loud for each one. Okay, go ahead. The second is, I, back in the day, built an electric light board in electric shop that you could plug in your music, your sound system, and based on the sounds, it would light up different colors. I was quite good in electrical shop. And then the third thing is I have raced on the Indy 500 racetrack in the pace car. Can I ask questions for clarification? Two questions for each or two questions in total. For each one, I don't have to. Ask about the race car. I'm pretty sure that's true, because your dad wrote for the paper and I went to India every year. And I know you went with him, so you could be messing with me there, but I'm gonna leave that one alone with no questions. How old were you when you did the electric board? It was junior high school. What was your teacher's name? Cannot, for the life of me, remember his name. Okay, and what was your first thing again? I ran track in high school. You ran track in high school? Okay, I'm gonna say that the lie. My guess is I'm actually going to guess you twisted the truth on the pace car that you've been at Indy. You've been around the track in a fast car. You maybe even have driven one. I don't know, but maybe not the pace car. So I'm going to guess you're trying to trick me, and it's the third one that's a lie. So wrong. All right, so the Indy five racetrack is correct. Yeah. And actually in the race, Cardinal. In. In the pace car, during the actual race, not during a race. Okay. But my. My dad worked for my dad for a period of time. Worked for you? Sack, he wrote about Indy cars for. You all the time. How fast did it go? He was amazing. For the morning call. For the morning call. And then you can still look up his article. He was a good writer. He's a really good writer. And he loved, loved, loved sport to the point where, you know, Mario Andretti came to my dad, my dad's funeral. During COVID might I add. Yes, during COVID That racetrack was terrifying. And I don't know. I don't even know that we got over 200, but it was terrifying. And I was in the backseat and I had a seatbelt on. I was terrified. I did build a lightboard in electric shop. I really had so much fun. I love soldering. I love doing the electrical thing. It was such a blast. And that was, like, the groovy thing to have back in the day. Yeah, no kidding. How did you get it to do music? Like, how did you get it to respond to notes? So if your speaker, sound wise, your speakers plugged into it, and then based on, I guess, your speakers, it, like. Lit up, whatever the wave was. Red, green or blue. It was, yeah, it was. So every note had a different color. Everything just kind of sat there and just bopped colors. I like that kind of cool. But you made it. I did. I tried to run track in high school. I was invited to run distance, and I went out with a really good friend of mine. She actually, and I were valedictorian and salutatorian of our high school class. We're like, right up there. The one day that we had to go out, I had cheerleading practice. And so the only thing I had were my saddle shoes, my cheering shoes, and I ran with her for a. While, and then your feet, and then. I had shin, and then I got shin splints really bad from the shoes. And I said, can't be doing this. Plus, as our daughter would say, why would you run unless you're running away from something? Away from a bear. It has to be a bear. Yeah. Yeah. So the right kind of run track in high school. Although, you know what? I'll say, like a few, you know, a number of years back now, never understood. Right after. Right after Lindsey, I actually, I ran and I got to a point where I really enjoyed it. And then you got. I got shinsplants again. So, you know, you did enjoy it. I remember that spell and that, and I always wondered about it because it's weird why people run. I hate it. I don't understand. I went through, like, this phase where I just didn't like to sweat. I hated running in any sport. I did like volleyball. The nice thing was we did mostly agility. Shit, yeah. Didn't have to run, but softball, we had to run the fields. I just hated running. I enjoyed it. I know. Well, that's a shame. You know what? You should try it up again with really good shoes. I gotta try it up again. 30 pounds lighter. With really good shoes. With really good shoes. Because really good shoes will make the big difference. Yeah. Yeah. All those things will make a difference. Okay. All right, go ahead. Just never try to albert there. Well, there's one. There's one kind of bear you do run from, and one kind you freeze. Lie down. You're supposed to play that first. Yeah. One of them you lie down, one of them you run away from, or no fight. Maybe it's fight because they're mean ass suckers. I've seen videos where they'll, like, chase people down and they can get up. You're right. They can chase. It's fight. Yeah, it's do what Erica did on all my children. She got up and said, go away. I remember that. You will not attack me. I am Eric Kane. Back in the days when I stand up to anything, when you used to. Watch faithfully all my children it broke my heart when it went off the air. What do you mean, back in the day? Well, I guess it was back in the day. When did it go off? Theater? I don't remember. But I remember you were like. You were. As I recorded him. I watched five every weekend. Love that. And Erica Kate. I'm sorry. She is a testament. And she was a neighbor when I lived in Garden City, so let's be fair. Yeah. You gotta be nice to your neighbor. Gotta be nice to my neighbor. She was always nice to us as little kids. She waved to us. All right, you go. Okay. I should have put that in, but, you know, I lived here. I knew that. Okay. Two truths in a lie. I'm starting them all with I might have. Okay, so then all of them could be true. I might have. Pam always by little loop. If she says I. They're all true. If she says I might have, that's exactly right. I stocked inventory at a hardware store when I was a kid. It was my first job. I got $25,000 up at a casino once and then gambled it all away. I have flown a banner up and down the Delaware coastline. Oh, these are hard. All right, so, like. So I know that your cousin Tracy has flown a banner up and down the Delaware, Texas. But you've never flown the plane. You've never flown a plane. I got you. I got you flying lessons, but I don't think you ever flew a battery. So when you say you got me flying, didn't I get you flying? No, I think you got me golf lessons. Oh, golf lessons. You wanted flying lessons, right? But I can't fly because of my seizure as a kid. Ah. So she did not fly. She did not fly. Oh, nice try, but I don't think you flew. So when you say flew, do you mean piloted or. Actually, we're just in a plane. Piloted. Oh, yeah, that one. That one's got to be. That's. That's the lie. That's gotta be the lie. But let me keep thinking. So that was the third one. The first one was you stocked hardware. Inventory to hardware store inventory at a. Hardware store as your first job. That's possible. Cause you're such a geek, you would probably enjoy doing stocking inventory. What was the second one? I might. Oh, no, I have. I've been up 25,000 at a Las Vegas casino, and then I gambled it away. So help me God. That is so possible. That is so possible. But if you ever got up 25, if you're telling me now that you got up 25,000. And you gambled it away. You and I took words, serious words. Watch and unravel here. Right on the. She said. She said podcast. This could not be true. Like, is that saying, that's the lie. Any other thing. If, like, if I say that that is true, I will have your head. Right here, live right here. That's illegal. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. And you don't get the life insurance if that happens. You flew a plane. Because I don't think you've ever. You've not flown a plane. All right. The lie is that you flew a. Plane, blessedly, because I treasure my head. No, the lie is that I've got 25. I've never gotten$25,000. Praise Jesus, because I would take your head off. I've never gotten up, like, enough to go, oh, wow, I'm up. I should walk away. I. Like, you've walked away with a few hundred. No, I've never walked away with really anything of note. Like, it's just stupid. If I took $1,000 into gamble, I may have gotten up 100 or 110. Like, I've never been one of those. And people always walk out of the casinos going, oh, I was up 3000. I've never ever. If I did, if I, like, got up as much as I put in at any point, I just put that aside and only play with. Right. You know, like, half of the winning. But no, it never happened. But I didn't fly, so Tracy would let me take the controls. But. Oh, that's. That's cheap. You did not. I flew it, Tracy. No, she was hands off again. You'll have to block the name or she'll lose her pilot's license. No, it's, what do you call it? Instructor training. Oh, there you go. Statute of limitations. It was pre seizure, so I was, I don't know, 1615 years old. They didn't follow. But I tell you what. Yeah. No, not on this plane. But interestingly, it's a hard thing to fly those. And she was explaining to me it's really. The takeoff's very dangerous, like, because it, like, she's got to be ready for the. For the drag. Jolt when it comes up off the ground, and then it drags the whole time, so it's actually pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, I knew she flew him. Mm hmm. That's how she got a lot of her hours. You were. You cheated up$25,000. You cheated if I were up 25. First of all, I never go in with less than. More than a thousand. So that would have been a freaking miracle. Well, that's why that didn't make sense to me. I'd have to, like, go on black on the roulette table. But seriously, four times. That is why that did not make sense to me. I knew that you did it. Let's claim the winner of the game. We were both wrong. But mine was more a lie. Mine was a better lie. Oh, God. I tried. My truth was a lie. There we go. Well, that's it for this week. Deb was great. That's our show. That's the show. Who's going to wrap it up today? Deb, I think you're. No, you are. 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