S1E4: Singing, Crypto, Road Rage and, Competing in the Olympics

This week, we’re shaking things up! Deb’s been hitting those high notes in her singing class (yep, singing!) while Pam’s deep in the rabbit hole with her latest crush, The Bankless Podcast, and all things crypto. And let’s be real—we all face the madness of road rage, so we’re swapping stories, laughs, and maybe a tip or two on keeping calm behind the wheel. Oh, and we tackle the big one: if we could go for Olympic gold, what sport would it be? Buckle up for fun, insights, and some laughs! 

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I don't know. I don't know. There was something in the sound I could like, you couldn't have. You couldn't have screamed those words across and been more clear. It was so obvious that that's what was going on. And then I was laughing because I'm like, oh, my God, I'm reading her breath. You know, it's so funny. That, to me is what makes, like, married life of any kind. Just horribly. Not horribly. There are your tips for the day. Yeah. She said, she said, and she said, and she said. Actually agree on both of those. I know you couldn't disagree. You really couldn't. I'd be in trouble. She said, she said. So true. It was short lived, she said. And then she didn't say anything after that. Welcome to the she said, she said podcast. I'm Pam Pryor, and I am an author, speaker, CFO, and I balance the books. I'm Deb Reinhardt. I am a master coach certified with Deepak Chopra and family, and I balance Pam most of the time. So each week, we're gonna dive headlong into things of life, business, all the stuff that comes up from being together 33 years. So there may be a few light hearted arguments. You never know. Let's see what we can provoke today. Oh, boy. Let's go. I am still laughing from last night, actually. So we were watching. Give me the name. The Hugh Jackman. Oh, yeah. Ryan Reynolds. Yeah. The Hugh Jackman. Ryan Reynolds. The Wolverine. Other way. Daredevil and Wolverine. Deadpool and Wolverine. Deadpool. That's it. Deadpool and

Wolverine. It was as late as, I don't know. 07: 1:47

00 730. It was 730. Exactly. I know exactly why. And we're bopping through all the YouTube clips of the two of them doing their press tour, which was really good. They're so funny together. And we actually were talking about date night for that movie because it really looks like a good one and we love both of them. But at the end of one of those, I hit stop or whatever, and I must have hit stop and just gone. From across the room, Deb starts laughing. I said, what are you laughing at? She goes, I know exactly what that breath was. That was, I am so tired, but I can't go to bed yet because it's only 730. That is so true. I didn't say a word. All I did was this particular breath. And I realized when you said it, there was like a particular, like, there was. I don't know. I don't know. There was something in the sound of I could. Like, you couldn't have. You couldn't have screamed those words across and been more clear. It was so obvious that that's what was going on. And then I was laughing because I'm like, oh, my God. I'm reading her breath. You know, it's so funny that, to me, is what makes, like, married life of any kind. Just horribly. Not horribly. Absolutely boring. Could be horrible, but awesomely comforting. Like, it was so funny to just. Know that you have no secrets. That's kind of where it goes down. There's no way I'm gonna, like, make an expression or secretly roll my eyes or anything that you're not gonna. Cause I hear your eyeballs roll in the back of your head. There you go. It's the mom's skill for marriage. It absolutely is. But the sad part is, we're not like, you're not even 60 yet. But it was 730 last night, and. We were like, we're exhausted. Okay. We gotta make it another 2 hours just to be human and give the dog. I'm actually just trying to think of what we did yesterday to be so freaking tired. I was working down here. I cooked a meal. I cooked a meal. I have not done that in a little while. I made a meal. That was it. I worked down here all day in our studio because it was cool. Because you were doing. You were singing. I was singing. So I love it that you talk about that for a minute. So you've always sung, right? Yes. What did you decide to say? I want to sing again, and I want to really sing. Like, we've been choir singers and that kind of stuff. But you, like, stepped up and went, I want to sing. Yeah. It just feels good. It just really feels good. And, you know, lindsay. I mean, lindsay sings. She's a. She's a pro. And we have a lot of what we do is with singers. We hang out with them. We hold leader ovens. Yep. Most of our bonus kids are singers. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to sing at a lieder aband and not be, like. Like, nervous about it or embarrassed with it because I was not. So that just struck you at some point, and you thought, I'm gonna do something about it. And I've gone back and I've gone. I've done lessons on and off for a little while, but I found a perfect teacher. Becky Oler's south Jersey voice studio. Yeah, we'll drop her info. We'll drop her in the notes because she's amazing. But Grammy. Grammy winner singers she's awesome, but it. It just feels good. And I think the other thing that's been really interesting for me, different from choral singing, choir singing, which is all. It's all I will ever do, just for the record. It is such a personal expression, like. And so now I'm starting to be more comfortable in just a. In actually embodying the songs. Like, so it's not just the vocal, but it's just how you feel about it, and so, yeah, that is so cool. It's actually getting more and more fun the more I do it. Well, I can tell. Cause you're doing it, like, every day for an hour, an hour, a couple hours. You're singing, and it's cool for me. Cause I get to hear it, and I hear it getting better and better and stronger and stronger. And you're singing differently than you did before. Yeah. Cause now I'm, like, living in the songs. It's a very different feeling. You're also accepting the fact that you're a belter. I'm learning. Learning to belt. I'm learning to belt. Yeah. That's really cool. She requires me to learn. We'll have to do a performance on. She said. She said someday, I think so. All right, cool. Deal. Well, that was pretty good intro for today, I think. Yeah, nice touch starting. Nice to start. And the thing there, I think, is it's just never too late to start anything. No, just do it. Absolutely not. Just. I'm not. I'm never gonna be. I'm never gonna win a Grammy. But never say but. Will I. Will I enjoy my voice? Will I enjoy making art? Yeah. The day I knew you were actually, like, really in, it was the day you said, I think I want to do a recital. Yeah, I know. Like, all right, sweet. So we'll keep you posted on that. Just so you know, when it happens, so kind of along the same veins, it's sort of, like the same sort of. I'm gonna call mine an obsession and yours a hobby. But when I took up Defi, really looking into crypto a little bit more, and I guess this kind of happened after Covid. Yes. It was after I got connected through kids were gone. Yeah. Through one of my masterminds, to just learning a little more about the crypto world. And it was one of those things where I kind of picked up the manhole cover. Yeah. And I just went down in it, and I'm now in the tunnels of crypto world and very rarely pop my head up back to normal life. But it's it's kind of cool. And again, it's along the veins. When I first started, I'm like, I know nothing about this. Yeah, it's like, who am I to be looking at crypto? It's for the young kids. It's something I'll never understand. You were, you were convicted. No, because. Because you really felt it was important to understand it for the purposes of your. Of your clientele, like, as well. That's what I started. That's what you said to me. Did I say that? Yeah, I meant that, like, my clients. Are gonna, at some point, this is gonna be a thing for them. I need to get ahead of it, blah, blah, blah. I meant that. That's exactly why I went there. So, yeah, I don't have any clients who invest in crypto, except one who doesn't even pay attention to it. Like, he's invested it, and that's it. But there's this really good podcast which we will provide a link to called bankless. And these two guys are, I don't know, I'm guessing in their thirties. David Huffman and Ryan, I don't even know their names. I only know them by their voices. Yeah, but they really, like, speak to people who know nothing up to people who really know stuff. And I've been listening to them now, steadily, for three years, non stop, because you have to get educated. Non stop. David and Ryan, thank you so very much. You are the soundtrack for every car ride that we have. Every car ride. Come on. And Deb will sit on the other side of the car, and if there's a word we don't know, she'll look it up, which is just awesome. See, it's a team sport. It's a team event. It's a team sport. And it is a whole new language. It's a whole new language. It's a whole new world. It's interesting because it's still kind of on the cutting edge. So to me, it's like Internet was in 1990, right? It's like nobody really knew what it was about, but we kind of heard of this thing and we were still working on green screens and could never conceive of, oh, I can go, you know, click on this thing at Amazon and it'll get delivered to me every month. Kind of like nobody had that picture in their head. So in my mind, this is kind of where we are now. They're still working out use cases for it, but if we don't listen all the time, it could get away from us. So you're welcome. There's a. There's. But it is pretty pathetic. There's an all the time, and then there's an all the time. We will get in the car, like, to go anywhere. And I automatically, like, it comes on. You hear Ryan and David, Ryan and David, Ryan and David. And every now and then, I do actually go, hmm, I'm in the car with my wife. We should probably have a conversation. And I turn it off. Or even funnier is when you'll start talking, but I'm, like, actually listening to Ryan and David. And there's one of two ways, one of two things that I do. One is I will turn it off with a little bit of attitude, and you'll go, like, thank you, or just keep talking. And other times I'll turn it off. Like, I really need to turn this off and listen to my wife. Yeah, yeah. And it's usually that it really. You don't give me attitude often, but. Like, unprompted, I don't come up with that myself. So now I'm trying have a new habit as I back out of the garage for you to get in the car, I'm turning it off so that we can actually chat. Now, if you're boring, stay off. If you're boring or you have nothing to say, I put it back. Oh, so nice. There's a lot to learn. I know there's a lot. There's a lot to learn. I know there's a lot. And you probably know now just from secondary smoke, you probably know now as more about crypto than 90% of the. Population, elements of it that are fascinating. Yeah. I mean, truly. Cause you're a tech person. Yeah, I'm a tech person. Been in it your whole life and. Yeah, but it is. It's so vast. Yeah. And there are days, literally, where they're just talking amalgamator vows. You know, it's like, what are those words? They're just stringing words together that make. No, it's like we say of Jeffrey, my nephew, who's the PhD, we can read his papers and we understand all the words, but I have no idea. What it says altogether. Same thing with, same thing with same thing with that. But it is interesting. So, like, I always wonder what everybody does when they get in the car together. Like, it's one of those times you have in an enclosed space, no other people, and devoting some time to your relationship when you're there is not an. Awful idea, you know? You know a really great thing that you can do when you're in the car to kind of commit to the relationship idea. It's just hold hands. Great point. It's just, it's like a little thing. Yep. But it's so nice. Yep. It's so nice. Really true. That is true. Even if you're not talking or are talking, it's a really cool kind of thing. Just a moment of connection. Especially now that we don't have a stick shift anymore. It works. Yeah. Because we haven't. Otherwise you're doing this. We've done that. We've done that. Still not as convenient, not as easy. Yeah. It's a true story. That. That is a really good tip. There's your tip for the day when you're in the car with your significant other, whether you're talking or not. Two tips. Hold hands. One is when you. When you leave the house. Before you leave the house, kiss, oh, I love you. Because you don't know when you're gonna. Walk, not when you're getting in the car together, but when you're. One is leaving. One is leaving the house. Yeah. Kiss and say, I love you. You just. Cuz you never know what life is gonna throw at you. It's really true then. Yeah. If you're getting in the car holding hands. It's really nice. Yeah. There are your tips for the day. Yeah, she said, she said and she said, and she said. Actually agree on both of those. I know. You couldn't disagree. You really couldn't. I'd be in trouble. That would be the end if she said, she said. So true. It was short lived, she said. And then she didn't say anything after that. She said it ended. Yeah. Okay. Well, you are, you're a really. You get people when you drive. People piss you off. But you said you're working on that road rage. Road rage. I think it's because I'm trapped in a vehicle. Yeah. I mean, I drive. What happened to enjoy the journey? I can't say. All right, I enjoy the journey when somebody else is driving. That is true. I. And I don't. And you don't? No, but I enjoy it when I'm. Driving, but I just. I feel trapped in the, in the car and. And then when people are stupid, and people are frequently stupid, what can you do? What can you do? Like, well, that's kind of my point. What can you do? What's the point of getting agitated? It allows me to express the frustration that happens when you're cut off by somebody going 85 miles an hour on 95. Like my 80. Please. Was not fast enough for them. That is true. It is 80. That is annoying. And then they weave in and out. And if that's you, no, but here's the thing. But it is those things. And true, you shouldn't be going 80. Let's start with that. I don't frequently second thing. And there are stupid left lane people. There's just no question. But you get agitated in traffic. Like if there's stop and go traffic, you go. Now, I know that urge, right? Because every time there's traffic, I start down that road. But then I do something you taught me, actually breathe. I know just a couple of really deep breaths. In for four, out for eight, or box breathing. And it's like, oh, I'm in the car. I'm listening to my podcast about Defi. I get extra time to hear it. And I'm either with my wife, I'm not with my wife or kids or whatever, but it's like, oh, I'm here. What's the problem? As long as, well, I always leave ridiculously early, a lot of extra time. So there is never any stress for. Me about being on time immensely. And you leave. I leave so much time with the. Nick of the time. And here's what happens. Oh, it is nick of time, because here's what happens. I'm going to, I'm going to clarify this for you now, once and for all, so that you understand. Diego. Speak, Diego, go on, buddy. Walk time. I'm going to clarify this for you once and for all because I, of course, see it, and it's right when we have a time to go, let's say it's 1030. Yeah. You aim at 1030. If you say we're leaving at 1030. Yes, I aim at me talking, still talking. We say 1030. You aim at 1030 faithfully. Like, I don't have to say 1015 for that reason, but you're ready at 1030. But you getting out of the house is like you. Anytime you walk around the house, you have to do the things. So if you see a book on a table instead of in the bookshelf, you'll put it away. If you see that the room needs vacuuming, you'll vacuum it. If you see anything, you have to do it. Like lights have to go off. Lights have to go off. So we end up being somewhere between five and ten minutes late leaving. So it's easy to solve. This is why we're still married. I just say 1015, but that's what you're doing. You have to like shut down the house. But yeah, before I leave. Yes. Before I leave the house, I want to make sure that in the event of an emergency, if there were an emergency, like, like say we were in a car accident, it's just like you. Don'T want the firemen to see your dirty underwear. I don't want anybody to see the house not looking completely. If there's a fire in the house. Not a fire in the house. If we, if something happens to us, let's like even, let's make, oh, after. We'Re dead, somebody comes into the house. Yes. Okay. I don't want them to say, oh, my God, they're living like this. But I don't, but that's why I don't, I don't, that's why I like, that's why I don't let the house ever get bad. But, but it is, it is a part of my mentality that before you leave. Yeah. You straighten everything up. Yep. And it's, it's not morbid. I just want to, I'm just, I like coming home to things. Well, now, that's the thing. I make fun of you all the time for your cleaning, but I love coming home to a clean house. I love it when the house is clean all the time. Like, it's pretty cool. But, but it is a thing we had to figure out. And I'll bet you we're not the only ones that have that leave early, leave late thing. But I always leave. But my point was, I'm circling back to my point. I always leave with plenty of time. Like if I need half an hour to get somewhere, I go, okay, I need half an hour. So let me add a 15 minutes padded. And then just in case, I'll add 15 minutes. So I leave an hour before when I need to leave half an hour before and then I leave five minutes before that. Like, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. But I never have to be hyper. Yeah. And like, I'll get to the airport. These guys know when they travel with me. I'm like, what time's the

flight? 03: 18:11

00 cool. We'll get to the airport at eleven. I know it's not quite that ridiculous, but, you know, why not work there calmly than work here? And then I all of a sudden get in a traffic jam and be late for a flight. Yeah. Yeah. It's just so logical. I understand. I understand some. But you don't like being in traffic. Even when you're a passenger, you don't like being in traffic, which is why we have podcasts. Then I try to sleep. She said, she said in bankless for people in those very situations. So if you're in traffic right now listening to this. Sorry about that. No, we did this just for you. Deep breaths. In for four, out for eight. In for four, out for eight. Yeah. I love it. Always exhaling more than you took in. Oh, that's an important tip. Say that again. Exhaling more than you took in. Why? It's just. That's the. The breath. That is that. Yes, as a matter of fact, it is. It calms the vagus nerve, so it does something. Four and four. You can do the box breathing, which is, you know, breathe in for four, hold for four. Breathe out for four, hold for four. Okay. That's a box. Or you can do coherence breathing, which is either you can breathe in, in, and out at the same, but when you breathe in and you lengthen the exhale, it's particularly calming to the vagus nerve. There you go. Stress reliever. So when. Here's the thing you don't do, kids, when your wife is stressed in traffic. Say don't say breathe. Don't say breathe, honey. You just tell me to breathe. You just breathe. Don't say breathe. Putting a fire on gas. Yeah, I'll breathe. You do that often? It's a. Do what you tell me to do. You do that often? I do do that a lot. You do it to press my buttons? I don't do it to press, but I do it to truly remind you, because breathing pisses me off. Like when somebody says, just breathe, it's like, God damn it. All right, and I breathe, and, like, for the first two breaths, I'm like, mad. Like, this isn't gonna do a damn thing. But then all of a sudden, on the third one, it's like, oh, that's really right. So I only do it. I don't do it to. Just to push your buttons. I really don't. I don't do anything to just push your buttons. Actually, now, I really don't. I don't. Because what value is that to me, seriously, that to really push your buttons? I think it's just naturally me pushes your butt. Maybe that's. But I'm not. I don't intend to. I think it's just how who I am sometimes. You have a very, very good gift. Thank you for finding every little. And I'm not even trying. I believe that. Breathe. Breathe. Are you nesting there? You're a pro at this and compete in the Olympics. At any two sports, one team and one singular. What would it be? Why do you want to go first? I can go first. All right. So my singular sport would be equestrian. I, when I was young, dressage or. Like, the course where you jump things. Yeah. I would love to do. I would love to do both of them. Oh, and the equestrians, they do. They do all of that. I didn't know that, but I. I. Think I took riding lessons when I was in second grade. My parents got me writing lessons for Christmas, and I just. I'm a horse. That's what he's saying. I'm a horse. I just loved the. I think they're. I think the movement of horses is beautiful. Yeah. They're gorgeous animals. And it just. It's just. And you kind of have a partner in it with your horse. Yeah. It's just such a gracious thing. And I think for the team sport, rowing, again, I think it's. For me, it's the. It's the aesthetics of rowing. You know, they. So we're in. We're just outside of Philadelphia, so. And then college. My best friend was a rower and would row at the Dadvales, so regatta downtown. And so I just have. I don't know, there's. There's something. You always like wearing something about it. Something. Didn't you, um. What do you call the person who yells? No, no, no. But I. I thought you did. No, no, no. I'm not tall. I'm not small enough. Is that another girlfriend? Must be somebody. Yikes. Yeah. No, I just would have sworn you are. What do they call that person at the front that goes full pull the stroke? I don't know. Oh, my God. I have no idea. I totally made that up. Yeah, I think you've forgotten. I did not do it in college. That was somebody else. I was never. I was never on. You did pull for skeet shooting. I pulled for skate shooting. That I did do. That was pretty pathetic jump for me. But it could be that. Okay, those are good. Yeah, those are mine. I actually. I think it's because they're just beautiful. Both of them are beautiful. Beautiful swatch. This will show why we're so different. I have two different pairs, so one pair is volleyball for the team sport, because I love volleyball. And unfortunately, when I was young enough to play volleyball, there was no women's sport. Was still. We were still wearing our onesie bloomers. And, you know, sports were done when you got out of high school kind of thing. And I loved volleyball. Now, that said, it's a very different game today than when I played, like, speed up, like, 700,000 times. But I would love to play volleyball again. It is also what destroyed my knees, but now I have new knees, so I'd love to play volleyball. And then to go along with that, my individual sport would be tennis, just because it's the same kind of net thing. And I love tennis. I love volleyball. My other two, though, when you went through the list, Francis, of all the sports. Soccer. I grew up on soccer. To play soccer again would be heaven as a striker. And I'd shooting. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those would be. And I think the biathlon or whatever it is. Yeah. So I think that would be my two. Yeah, I like them. Which two would you pick when it's hard? Because I played some of these sports. So, like, I feel like I have. A natural affinity for a couple of. Them, but I really like volleyball. I think doing table tennis would be all. Table tennis. That is so fast. Yeah. Yeah. That is nuts. Have the lowest potential for, like. For injury. Yeah. There you go. Table tennis. That's smart. Let's take care of your body. Yeah. Or I could run into somebody or get a concussion. Right. How about you, Francis? What are your wrestling and rugby? But they weren't on the slowest. Wrestling's not on the Olympics list. It may not be. This is, like, the full list. Yeah. Wrestling, rugby. I want to watch more if we don't get enough livestream of rugby, because I really. Rugby and cricket are two games I really want to understand the rules for. Rugby's a crazy. Rugby is a crazy game. Oh, does he play? Yeah, he's professional, right? Yeah. And they have women's rugby now. Right. I may have to find me a rugby club in Philadelphia. It is. And there's no helmet or pads, right? Yeah. You're not gonna do that. You're not gonna do that. Holy cow. No, no, no. Well, no, not necessarily to play, but to, like, maybe I could be the water boy. I could be the water boy. I just want to learn it. Yeah. The water boy. Motivational speaker, you name it. Accountant. Your team accountant. Yeah, I know. I love it. Those are those a good question, though. That was a question. Drop yours in the comments. What's your favorite independent Olympic summer sport and team Olympic summer sport. Let's do a little poll and see what we got. I like it. Awesome. Winter. Winter. Winter. I wished I could ice skate. I would be. Yeah. It would be ice skating, assuming I had the talent. Although it does seem like everybody's really high stress in skating like that. Go back to Nancy Kerrigan and what's her name. And it's like, whoa. I don't know, it's just, but again, it's a beautiful sport. Yeah. It's set to music. I don't know that I could ever be that graceful. I can't dance on feet, much less on skates. Even our daughter said, oh, mean, I've got to work on that. I can't move my top and bottom of my body. They don't go together, but winter sports. So the jumping would be cool. The ones where they go down that huge thing. Oh, no, no. That's. That would be very cool for me because I'd still feel safe. Like I want a paraglide, but I'd like, be paranoid about paragliding. You feel safe hurtling yourself down. You're 400ft, you're gonna land. Like when you paraglide, you jump off a cliff. That's, you know, a thousand feet in the air. That's really different. That's a parachute holding. Yeah, but what if it ripped? What if a bird hit me? What if like my pocket knife fell out and sliced it? Jumping is if your ski is just like a centimeter off of where it's supposed to be. You're. Yeah, but mine wouldn't be. Mine wouldn't be. So I want to do that. And then team sport, probably ice hockey. That would be luge. I was gonna say bobsled where you. Just get in a thing and sit there. Hey, cool runnings. I loved that movie when I was a kid. Oh, I don't know that movie. No. Cool running. No. Oh, I remember the Jimmy akin well about them. I remember them. That was pretty cool. But to me, in luge, you get in a thing and you go like this. Like, what am I missing? How is that a sport? There's going to be a luge athlete. That's going to, you're on the luge. People are lying down. Well, they're really fit. I know that. So they work out. They have to be strong. But I don't understand the sport. Like how do you make yourself down. The, because you, you have to like cut certain angles on the turn. You're just against, like you're not in. It, you're on it. You have brakes that you're controlling. So you are doing something in there. Yeah. Okay. Because I know they're all strong and fit as any athlete. Yeah, but I just don't, it's like then you put your body in this thing and it's like, okay, let's hope we win. But maybe it's how they lean in there and all these other scientific things that I can. Anyway, so you think about it, right? You think about how fun it would be to be in, like, a NASCAR car. Yeah. Really, really high speeds, too. That's true. Those accidents are horrible when they happen. That's the other thing. To one's point about injury. I probably wouldn't do it because of injury. It's just too crazy. Of course I will fly. Of course you'll fly off a thing. Yeah. Oh, curling. Yes, I do curling. Yes. I love it. Hey, our nephew. Our nephew learned how to do it, and he's now like a. A ref. Yeah. I would do curling. It is so fun looking. It is a weird. It is a weird, but fun. I want. Do you watch it? Oh, you don't. Oh, my God. I watch it every time. It's like I can't look away. It's like a car wreck. I watch it if it's the only thing on. It's like. It's like when I used to watch. What was that show? I could not. Lawrence Welk. Lawrence Welk would hit the tv and it was like watching a car wreck. I couldn't I ever pass it. I just watched Lord's walk. That would be curl. No, I like watching curling, though. You age yourself right there, babe. I did age myself. I don't. If you don't know by now, 62, folks. Hey, here's a cool thing about me. I'm 62, and I was born in 62. This is my very special year. This is your very special. My 62. 62 year. Everybody has one. Well, not everybody. I think everybody has two golden years, I guess, because once the day of the month. Oh, 62. 62. Yeah. That's true. I would. I'd hate to be born in zero. Zero, though. You will. You'll be 90. 97. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You will. You'll be 97 and 97. I don't want that, dad. No, it's not 1997. So. You were born in 97. When you're 97, it'll be 20,085. Yeah. Yeah. Or 80. I don't do math at all. Do you want to live to 97 is the question. Yeah. You do not want to live to 97. Even with all the stuff that's available now, to be able to have a healthy, active life till then, I feel. Like regardless, I'll probably hit like 80. You'll be done. And then I'll be like. It'll be all down. It's like, I've done it all now. Asian people, you're good. And you'll stay like, pretty much, you know, I'll go up to 60 and I'll look fine. And at 60, switch will flip, and I'll start to age. And then from 60 to 80, I'll be like, you know, kind of going. On the downhill kind of old asian man. But then from, like, 80 to, like, 100, it should pass. You have pre planned this. It's been observed. We need to work on your manifesting skills. What? Are you manifesting misery after 80? No, no, no, no. Oh, my lord. That's so sad. That is so sad. But yeah. So now I've got to actually do the math. I think you'd be 97 in 2084 now that I do that math. Right? No, no, 20. No, that's not right. 209-42-0940. No, I don't think. What? Okay. All right, everybody, we're gonna wrap now, I think. Yeah. That was a fun episode. It was. It's always good to talk to you. This is some of the best talk to you. Better than in the car. You're working all the time. 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