S1E12: Halloween Costume Ideas, Scaring Our Kid with Finding Nemo, and the Improv Game!

This week, Pam and Deb get into the Halloween spirit. They are talking about Halloween memories, costume ideas, and accidentally scaring Deb’s daughter with Finding Nemo. To cap it all off they play the alphabet improv game! 

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Please. Yes. Now we can get to the story. Because Disney's torture of my child is nothing compared to what her own mother did to her. Okay, fine. We saw this movie, but then later on we were out in New York and had dinner somewhere. At a Japanese restaurant. At a Japanese restaurant. Fabulous restaurant. You got. I got a. I got a different. I got a plate of. Of sushi. Word? No. Yeah, I had sushi, but one of the pieces of sushi had. No, one of the pieces of sushi had fish roe. Fish roe. Orange fish roe. And at the table with our five year old daughter. Because we were up there to see Le Mistress. She's older than five. We were up there to see Le Mistress. Is that the Les Mistress? And she was five years old because she knew the libretto by heart. Yeah, she was. Little Deb goes, oh, look, Nemo's brothers and sisters. And then she took a bite. Welcome back to she Said. She Said. I am Pam. Author, accountant, speaker, wife of 33 years and a mom to a beautiful daughter. Bonus. Kids and some dogs. I don't even know how to follow that. And I'm Deb. I am a life coach. I am now also back corporate as a corporate. Corporate executive. And I am here to keep Pam in line. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Yeah. The first thing we have to share is we had a miracle on Saturday, which was your birthday. My birthday was Saturday. Two things happened miraculously in my car. You got in the car and you didn't comment on how much gas was in the tank. I didn't. And we pulled into the charcoal parking lot for breakfast like we do every week. And every week for at least six years, you cannot help but tell me where to park. Yep. You didn't say a word and let me pick the parking spot. Now, I will tell you that I felt such energy coming from that side of the car where you were clearly trying to keep your mouth shut. I did it though, didn't I? And you did it. I did it. So you gave me. I gave you a gift on my birthday. On your birthday. So congratulations. Yeah, you're welcome. I love it. The other miracle that happened this week is we don't have a fourth dog. Yeah, that's a really good miracle. There is an adorable steel gray Frenchy. Blue eyes. Blue eyes. He's stinking cute. I mean, 14 months, they call him. Like Tater Tot or something. Tater Tots, his name. Yeah. At our groomer, shout out to Blue Pooch. Who does the grooming on Murphy and Big Guy Diego. And they had Frenchie poodles. And one of them. The couple couldn't end up taking the one that they were going to take. And I was like, oh, my God, it was so cute. The pictures are unbelievable. He's a doll baby. But. So it's been. It's been another miracle. Yeah. Yeah. Where have I been? That one. Had that one not been a miracle, you would have found another miracle because you would have been in the. Is this not the best sign ever? When. Where did you get this? We went. Pumpkin patch. I don't remember. You'll have to ask Lin Villa Orchards. You went to Lin Villa Orchards? Oh, yeah. Great place in our little gift shop. I love it. So Deb has always said, when the next dog comes, I'm moving out to the she shed. And now we have a she shed sign, which is almost as hard to say as she said. She said. No, now we have to say she said. She said she shed sign. She. She said. She said in the she shed sign. We could do shed. We could do she shed. She. We could do she. She said she shed. No, we couldn't. In the she shed. But this is perfect. We're gonna have to figure out where to put this up. We'll have to make. We'll have to make a she shed, and then we'll have that as an arrow that points to where the she shed is. I love that. And that's where me and the dogs will live. That's where you and the dogs will live for the rest of your life. But it is a miracle. We didn't get that dog because that dog was adorable. And the only thing that stopped me was he wasn't potty trained yet. If he had been, I probably would have come home with him. To be honest with you. He was very good. That would have been the start of. That might have been the end of she shed. She shed. It could have been the end of. A lot of things she said. She said. God, who knows? Another miracle. Yeah. I've been working in the office all week. Yeah. I want to give you some props. Thank you. I'm ready. Pam has been working in the office all week. I also want to give myself some props. I believe that Pam has been working in the office all week because I'm now back to work in a regular job, and I'm in my office on meetings, and I think you're being respectful, so I'm. I believe that. I believe that. Yeah. I believe every time your wife gives you credit for something that you actually didn't do still take the credit. No, I think the dynamic has changed. Because you're giving. Because you're giving me goodness. Yes, that's. That is exactly what it is. That's what I thought. Out of respect for you, I'm working in my office. For those of you who don't know, you can go back a couple of episodes and learn that for a long time. I love my recliner and I will live in that recliner. I will sleep in it. It's the second. It's the second generation. It's the second generation recliner. The first generation recliner is sitting down here. It's. It's. It. It needs to. I. I don't want it to go like, I want to fix it because here's the thing about the recliner real quick. And then we'll jump into the office. The automated one, I don't like. It takes too long to go up and down. Yeah. The electric. This one, I can just go. Yeah, because you just go and down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The. The. This one's like, good lord, I feel 100 years old. Like, the next thing it's going to do is catapult me out. You need one of those. Like the mom, when we asked her, mom helped her. I'm like, no, I just want the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want the thing. But I'll tell you what, working in the office, it makes a difference. It does. It's. There's a different energy. There's a different. I don't think my work's any better or worse, but my energy level about the work and being able to think, think a little. Like, what I've done is I want to construct a day and my time a little more formally than in the chair where I just get into a spreadsheet and go forever. And it makes. What I will say is it improves our life. Like, because there is kind of a separation between the work and, like the downtime. And even if you do come down and sit in your chair in the evening and do some more work, it's just a little bit more. It's not like it's the continuation of. The prior 16 hours, 11 minus 12. And the interesting thing is I'm getting as much done in less time. Yeah. So whereas I would sit in that chair and just go till midnight. Now I finish work at five or six or seven, depending on meetings, come downstairs, and I may do 15 or 20 minutes. Yeah. But I'm done. And it's kind of nice. It is nice, actually. Enjoy Fringe. We're We're. Yeah, we're binging French. We're almost done. We could do. You know what's coming, don't you? My least favorite holiday of the whole year. Yeah, I know. I hate. I've always hated it, but it is Halloween and people do get into it. Yes. We should do costumes. We could do fringe costumes. I don't know that there's a fringe costume. We would have an alien coming out of my stomach. I don't think so. Well, if you're going to do a costume, you kind of have to go out. All right, I'm. I have to. I'm. I'm trying to wrap my head around the costume thing. I literally do not recall any costumes of my costumes ever. I did a lot when I was little. I did cow, like cowboy. And then what else did I do? I did a race car driver. I did ghost. Everybody did ghost. You ever put a sheet over your head and went out trick or treating? I can't remember. Pam, did you ever go trick or treating? Yes. You just didn't put a costume on? Yes. We caught. We. We costumed. Oh, you just don't remember what they are. I have no memory. I. There's only one memory that I have of a costume. And I think. And I may have been. Let's see, my brother Michael might have been three, so I might have been six. And I was like a princess, and he was. And he was Casper the Friendly Ghost. And I only remember that because I remember a picture. Like I have a vision of a picture of the two of us. Outside of that, nothing. Now, Lindsay, every year we've dressed her up. We dressed her up every year. Her first year. Remember our next door neighbor gave us a pumpkin costume. Oh, the Smiths. She was like four months old. Lindsay was a bitty thing. And this big pumpkin thing that she said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Andrea made it. Andrea. It was an incredible, incredible mom. She made costumes every year for those. That's true, that's true. But she made Lindsey one that first year. It was adorable. But she dressed. We got her dressed in costumes. And then even when she got older and she didn't need us to do it, that her friends were still cool and dressing in costumes. Get some good pictures of that. I know. I remember the finding. And they did themes like it was like a whole thing. It was like a gang of them. And they did a theme. Like, wasn't. It was. Oh, one of them did. There was Finding Nemo. Because I remember Lindsay was like the star. I think she was the Starfish. Finding Nemo is part of why Lindsay needs couch time. We have not told this story before. We watch Finding Nemo, and of course, we all cry when the baby fish. Can I tell you. No, no, no, no, no, no. We need to get some background. We need to get some background here. Anybody who's been watching Disney. Everybody who's been watching Disney movies for their life. Disney torments. Children every. In every. Almost every Disney movie. So you had to add, the mom dies, the dad dies. It's. It's terrible. Yes, yes, yes. Always, always, always. Can we get to the story, please? Yes, now we can get to the story. Because Disney's torture of my child is nothing compared to what her own mother did to her. Okay, fine. We saw this movie, but then later on we were out in New York and had dinner somewhere. At a Japanese restaurant. At a Japanese restaurant. Fabulous restaurant. You got. I got a. I got a different. I got a. A plate of sushi. No. Yeah, I had sushi, but one of the pieces of sushi had. No, one of the pieces of sushi had fish roe. Fish roe. Orange fish roe. And at the table with our five year old daughter. Because we were up there to see Les. She was older than five. We were up there to see Les. Is that the Les mistress? And she was five years old because she knew the libretto by heart. Yeah, she was. Little Deb goes, oh, look, Nemo's brothers and sisters. And then she took a bite. I didn't eat it. No, I didn't eat it because I don't like fish roe. But you. Oh, my gosh. Lindsay was horrified. I laughed. And now you wonder like, you know, you're going to screw your kids up, but usually you don't do it intentionally. What's it intentionally? Lindsay was already a vegetarian. It wasn't intentional. And Deb points at her plate and goes, oh, look, Nemo's brothers and sisters. We found them. By then she might have been a vegetarian by then. She was a vegetarian by then. That was. That was terrible. So that. You know what our team thinks we ought to do. Our team? Yeah. I say that word loosely. As they may not be for long. They want us to dress up as each other. Oh, that's good. Jacket. I could pull off your jacket. We want you guys to get like. But we. We have the same clothes. Like, we share clothes. Things like really bad wigs. Like, really bad wig for you. I will not go shopping for Halloween costume. No, I hate Halloween. No looking at them online. I'm ready. Oh, all right. So I don't have to think about it. Oh, God. That's always been my problem with Halloween. It's like I have to go through all this problem to be creative. Get the thing or make the thing, put it on, go out. I'm not a fan and I'm just not a fan. The only thing that I. They're going to turn. We. We sound like cranky old. We sound like that house that closes up at night and nobody. We were that house. No, I do it again. But. But I have one fond memory of Halloween in our neighborhood, and that was our. When our next door. Here here. When our next door neighbor JoLynn came over on Halloween. And everybody, like, we live in a neighborhood, you know, many years ago, it's lots of little kids, you know, it's kind of turning. They're all gone now. Those kids are gone. Now we're getting a new. And some grandkids and. Right. And. But our next door neighbor, she was a hoot. Like, there. There was not a thing that, like, I can't explain. We live in this very little suburban area. Everybody has their homes, like, really sweet and tastefully decorated. It's just kind of a thing. It's lovely. JoLynn, bless her heart. She would. She put up, I don't know, at Christmas time, 8, 10, big, huge blow up balloon things in her yard. She would be up. She came to our house, she asked for extension cords, and she's climbing up on the roof of her house. I mean, these are big. Like this is a high roof. She's a tiny bitty thing and she's climbing up on the roof of her house to put things up. And she came over that Halloween. She remember this. Oh, my God. She threw a whole party. She threw a block party. She had a band. Oh, I do remember. And she came dressed. She decorated her house. She came dressed as a witch. Yeah, she decorated her house like crazy. Like a haunted house. And she dressed like a witch. And she came over and she. She was handing out beers. She was offering. Witch is bruised. Do you. You don't remember that? Remember that? That's funny. That is like my. I might have been out. That might have been my funnest, fondest memory of Halloween. I'm just not a fan. That's funny. Yeah, me either. A good party. I don't mind. Just don't make me get dressed up for it. Yeah, but. So we're gonna apparently get dressed on. She said. She said when we record on Halloween. Maybe we are. There's no maybe. Maybe we are. When the team says go. The team says go. We do what the team says. That's how it works. I love it. But anyway, thank you for my one miracle, which was the gift of not helping me park. You're welcome. That's a huge deal. It was so funny because I could feel you not doing it. Like, it's like muscle memory. It was hard. It was real. It was hard. But I knew that, like, I know that I need to work on that. All right, so one more thing. How have the first couple weeks of. Corporate work, then the first couple weeks of corporate work. So I work in pharmaceuticals. It's a regulated industry. In order to work in a regulated industry, you have to train on every SOP that will potentially touch you and your business. I believe that as of yesterday, I have completed 120 some bits of training. Whether that is SOPs, work instructions, codes of ethics, you know, anybody, anybody, anybody. How to. How to do an expense report, how to file. How to file your regulatory documents in a compliant manner. Anybody who thinks that pharma is, like, all bad. These people are committed. Committed to trying in every way, shape, or form to do the right things. Like, it is hard work. The train. I am. I invented a new term. I am trained dead. I am like, basically my brain has. Turned off, absorbed everything it could absorb. Totally absorbed. Totally done. But it's been wonderful. The people are amazing. So kind, so engaged. Everything you said about this, from the interview process on, when they came to ask you if you wanted to think about it to. To now, it's just been. The people seem amazing. They are. That's so good. So I'm. I'm. I'm really, really excited. I'll be heading out to California, you know, in about a week and a half. And that'll be fun for. Don't worry. I'll take care of the house strategy setting. I'm sure that you will do some batch cleaning while I'm gone, when I'll have to come up and stay with us. What I do is find out when the plane lands. And a half an hour before that, I try and do everything. Y'all have the cleaners come in. That's a good idea. That's what she should do. That's a very good idea. That's what you should do. Yep. Clean out the sink, make sure. Throw out the pizza boxes, make sure the floors not mopped. But I spot. Clean the dog paw prints. Clean up. Yeah. Well, there's a lot. There's a very lot to do. There's a lot. I'M sure, but. So I hear we're playing a game today next. Are we? We are playing. Okay, so it's the Alphabet game. Have you guys ever played the Alphabet game before? No, but you explained it to me this morning. So let me see if I've got it right. I'm going to start something, anything, a story, a poem, anything with the letter conversation. And then Deb has to take the next sentence. Like I do one sentence, and Deb has to do a sentence with letter. Starts with letter B. And then I have to do C and we have to make it flow. Yeah. Okay. It can't just be, like, random sentences because they start with that letter. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And does it have to be, like, rapid? Like, do we have time to think or. Oh, you can edit so it looks rapid. We can look really smart. You don't want to sit there. The goal is not lock gaps. Yeah. Like, you get, like, 10 seconds, and then if you don't do it, then 10 seconds, you lose. Got it. Okay. Should we have, like, a punishment for the loser? Oh, what would the punishment be? You have to wear costume. You mean the first person who doesn't. Who can't think of a sentence that starts with a letter. Nobody will lose. We'll get it. But. But should we. But I like to have a stick. What's the stick we're going to use? What will we use? I don't know. If. Maybe if you lose, you have to leave. You are not allowed to close a door or turn off a light for a week. Any door. Any light for a week. She's so frustrated because I closed the. Because I closed the back door all morning. The time I come down, it's 42 degrees and she's the back door wide. Open so the dogs can go in and out and I don't have to get up. Anybody ever gets. They know that. It's, like, easy. Just come on in. Come on in. Any time

between the hours of like 5:30 and 6: 18:20

30, come on in. I am downstairs with the animals. Asleep in your chair. I'm not. I'm thinking. Yep. With your eyes closed. Punishment. Yes. What do you want Pam's punishment to be? I like the idea of you guys choosing. Yeah, you're a bit of a sadist. I think if I win, Pam needs to close the door like it should be. This is a. Solve marital problems, you know, any issues at home. There you go. Playing a game. All right, this is the one. All right, Ready? Pam starts with a. Animals make the house a home. But they also make the house very messy. Can't you just see the bright side of this thing? Dog paws are everywhere in our house. Everywhere is a little bit of an overstatement. In fact, a lot of an overstatement. For once, I would like you just to admit that if we just had something easy like a goldfish, it would be much easier. Goldfish was a very nice pass to me. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you very, very much. Oh, how very much like you to just use that and skate easily into the next sentence. I am a little bit of a selfish thing when it comes to creative games. Just so everyone knows she is like this 24 7. Knowing it doesn't actually mean I do the same thing all the time. Let's be very clear, Pam. You have a very clear set of common foibles. Maybe, but foibles might not be quite the right word. I'd find a different way to name it. So can I not make a. I can't do a thingama hoochie. All right. I just lost. I'm gonna have to shut the damn door. Open the door. Got to leave the door open. We were on. What were we on? But I know what I was gonna say. But I didn't know. That you can't have it. That you can't. Yeah. So you can keep going because you didn't know. Nope, nope, nope. Keep rolling. We got to get to Z. Okay. I don't remember where we. What we talked about. See, maybe there's another word for it. Oh, maybe there's another name for it. I said, I know. You gave me the n. Needless to say, it is often that you have a very. You have a very. What's the word I want? Predictable. That's it. A very predictable set of behaviors. Often is probably a bit of an overstatement. Possibly, but I would still use it. Quiet. I've heard enough of this right now for this show. At this point, really, it's important that. These people get to know you for who you are. She said. She said it's not about knowing me for who I am. It's about understanding the dynamics of a relationship. Today, it's about understanding who you are. Unfortunately, I disagree. Vast hours have been spent tormenting me. This is my first opportunity to let other people into the agony that is my life. We are using this show for you to express that your marriage has been agony for 33 years. 34 exactly. 33. 34 exactly doesn't start with X. We're taking it X, actually. Oh, you Just cheated zebra. I see. We both. We both lost. Oh, goodness. Yeah. Oh, my God. That. That's hard to do, actually. Yeah, it is. It's kind of fun, though. Yeah, it is kind of interesting. I was thinking. I was thinking maybe we should have. If we. If we did like, if we did music. If we somehow another state in the music. In the music genre. That makes it harder. No, the X could be a xylophone. That is. I. I sat here thinking, like, how could. What happens if I get. How could you get to X? I think exactly was pretty funny. I like that when's like. But like, there are very few X words. Do you think that was too easy. For you X ray? Do you have another game that's harder in mind? I was thinking, though, you could do that with a topic very specific. Yeah, a topic would be hard because here we could wander anywhere. Right. Well, like, I'm thinking like a scenario. Like we really go improv and you're talking about music. Maybe you're the musician and Pam's the producer. We have to. And we have to stick to the theme. All right. But this time Deck yet today. Okay, okay. I'm the producer. You're the singer. You're the. You're the temperamental artist. I'm the logical. Artistic expression has to trump anything that goes into what we're trying to create here. But artistic expression will not pay the bills. Can't you understand that it is important. Important for me as a singer to be able to express myself the way I need to express myself? Don't you have the ability to express yourself in a way that also appeals to your audience? Even though I can. I can see a piece of where you are, and I know that it appeals to my audience. You have to give me the final say. Fuck this. I quit. Guess what? If you can't handle it, I will find somebody else who can. Handling you isn't the problem. Handling your concept of a business is the problem. I think my concept of a business is just fine. Just fine, again, isn't going to necessarily pay the bills. Keep us on track here. It's my music that pays the bills. It has not your work that pays the bills. Let me explain what a producer does. A producer helps take your music and turn it into something that pays your bills. Maybe if I could get a sense for how much extra work you actually did, it would be valuable to me. No one ever understands how much work we do. One can only try. People ask and I try to answer, but it's very hard to explain. How we take your beautiful work, which it is, and transform it into something that will let you be a musician your whole life. Quickly. This is starting to lose its momentum for me. Really? Yes. You lose. I lost. You did it on EST again. I know you used s. I said, really? That was my worst. Right? That was your thing. I'm like, yes. Really? Geez, Louise. You should have just said, Jen. Yeah, this is too. This. Yeah. Trying to keep on a topic. Trying to keep in a. And trying to be an asshole producer was hard. Yeah. Trying to be an artist is ours. Most artists aren't our artists, and our. Artist friends are not at all. Or our producers. They're gonna be like, oh, my God, that's what they think of me. Especially since a lot of our artist friends are producers. They're artists and producers. Yes. Oh, that was a tough one. That was a tough one. Well, they got us that time, I think. All right, so we have to come up with these costume things. Actually, that's not true. They have to. They have to come up with costumes. I'm not. If I'm gonna have to wear one, I don't want to think about it. Okay, that's fair. And then are we gonna, like, change seats next week when we film? I think we have to. I think that makes sense. And I have to be you, and you have to be me. Yes. Good luck. Yeah. Oh, my Lord. Well, clearly you're going to want to tune in next week if you have any curiosity about how I perceive Deb or how Deb perceives me, because we're going to be playing each other's roles. I think they probably have a pretty good sense. That's true. 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